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The wages of sin is not eternal torment (III)

By: dayan (M) |Time : April 07, 2019, 07:51:48 AM
By Femi Aribisala

When God kills, his killing does not nullify his love. He kills to reprove and with the firm intention to redeem and renew life.

The writer of Hebrews says: “It is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment.” (Hebrews 9:27). This one-time death is not in the future, but in the past. “In Adam all die.” (1 Corinthians 15:22). Therefore, the judgment that comes after death is also “in Adam” and in the past. In Adam we all died, and in Adam we were all judged.

Accordingly, we are not just in danger of God’s future judgment, as Christians presume; we are already going through the judgment here on earth. Isaiah says: “When (God’s) judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.” (Isaiah 26:9). Paul also notes that: “The wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness.” (Romans 1:18).

Life of death

God’s wrath against ungodliness is evident in the life of death we have been living since Adam. It is life defined by aches and pains; tragedy and sorrow; sicknesses and diseases; and fear and torment. It is life defined by sitting in darkness, blind to the glory and majesty of the invisible God. It is a life dead to God and to his divine attributes of love, joy and peace.

But thanks be to God, contrary to the position of hell-fire Christians: “men are not cast off by the Lord forever.” (Lamentations 3:31). “(God) does not retain his anger forever, because he delights in mercy.” (Micah 7:18). “His anger is but for a moment, his favour is for life; weeping may endure for a night, but joy comes in the morning.” (Psalm 30:5).

Instead of consigning sinners to demonic eternal torment, God says: “For a mere moment I have forsaken you, but with great mercies I will gather you. With a little wrath I hid my face from you for a moment; but with everlasting kindness I will have mercy on you.” (Isaiah 54:7-8). Therefore, he sent his Son Jesus to broker peace between God and men.

Kingdom dynamics

The psalmist says: “God has spoken once, twice I have heard this: that power belongs to God. Also to you, O Lord, belongs mercy; for you render to each one according to his work.” (Psalm 62:11-12). This is very instructive. It means if God speaks once, it is absolutely essential that we hear him twice. The first might be the expression of his power, but the second will be the expression of his mercy.

God says: “I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live.” (Ezekiel 33:11). Therefore, when God kills, he does not kill according to malicious men with the sole intention to destroy. When God kills, his killing does not nullify his love. He kills to reprove and with the firm intention to redeem and renew life. Thus, he says: “I, even I, am he, and there is no God besides me; I kill and I make alive; I wound and I heal.” (Deuteronomy 32:39).

If God speaks once, hear him twice: “The dream was repeated to Pharaoh twice because the thing is established by God, and God will shortly bring it to pass.” (Genesis 41:32). If God speaks, listen to him again. Often, what he says a second time seemingly negates what he says the first time: “For God does speak- now one way, now another- though man may not perceive it.” (Job 33:14).

The reason for this is that God often presents an action with a reaction. The reaction would seemingly contradict his action by providing it with sharp relief. So, while his action might display his anger and wrath; his reaction would then reveal his grace and mercy.

God will surely punish sinners, but after he has punished, he will redeem. Should God say he is going to kill you, recognise that he will. But also note that after he has killed you, he will then give you new life. Thus, Job says of God: “Though he slay me, yet will I trust him. Even so, I will defend my own ways before him. He also shall be my salvation.” (Job 13:15-16).

Job’s faith, like that of David, led him to conclude that God will not leave his soul in the grave.” (Psalm 16:10). Jesus confirms that the same God who takes life is the one who raises the dead back to life. (John 11:25).

Salvation for all

Since all sinned and died, Jesus “tasted death for every man.” (Hebrews 2:9). Thereby, he became “the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.” (1 John 2:2). As a result, 2000 years ago, we were all forgiven for our sins. The only sin that now remains is the sin of not believing in Jesus.

Thus, Jesus says the work of the Holy Spirit is to: “convict the world of sin.. because they do not believe in me.” (John 16:8-9).

Jesus’ salvation will go on for the ages to come. At the end of that process, everybody will be saved. God has decreed that: “at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” (Philippians 2:10-11).

This means everybody will receive the Holy Spirit because: “no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit.” (1 Corinthians 12:3). It also explains Jesus’ assertion that: “If I am lifted up above the earth, I will make everyone want to come to me.” (John 12:32).

This will bring God’s prophecy to full circle: “It shall come to pass afterward that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh.” (Joel 2:28). Accordingly, Paul says: “Since by man came death, by man also came the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at his coming.” (1 Corinthians 15:21-23).

This means salvation will not be exclusive to those who receive Jesus in this lifetime. There is coming in the future a Jubilee marking: “the times of restoration of all things” (Acts 3:21), whereby: “all beings in heaven and on earth would be brought back to God.” (Colosians 1:20).

In the ages to come, God promises to rebuild the tabernacle of David: “so that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord.” (Acts 15:17). He says: “I will have mercy on her who had not obtained mercy; then I will say to those who were not my people, ‘You are my people!’ And they shall say, ‘You are my God!’” (Hosea 2:23).

In effect, those insisting God will consign the major part of humanity to eternal torment are no different from the hypocritical Pharisees of old. Jesus says: “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in.” (Matthew 23:13).



Re: The wages of sin is not eternal torment (III)

By: dayan (M) |Time : April 07, 2019, 08:07:23 AM
This is a very deep topic, and it is mistake to take one side very quickly without doing some deep study.
After the first version of this article, I decided to do more reading of the "scriptures" to be able to strengthen my hunch on what I think would happen in the end.
What I found was intriguing, and yet simple enough.

I did not find that in the current Bible; I found it in one of the scriptures that was not included in the Bible.
That scripture is older than all the new testament and dates as old as (if not older than) the old testament.
What book am I referring to?
The Book of Enoch.

In the book, God was angry at the fallen angels who went to take wives from the daughters of men.
Essentially, the judgement spoken of in that book refers to those angels and all that concerned them.
They taught men sorcery, and all the powers of roots and leaves, and magic.
Those angels polluted the earth and God simply could not forgive them for it.

In the book of Enoch

Chapter 10
1. Then the Most High, the Great and Holy One spoke,
2. And sent Arsayalalyur to the son of Lamech,
3. Saying, Say to him in my name, Conceal thyself.
4. Then explain to him the consummation which is about to take place; for all the earth shall perish; the waters of a deluge shall come over the whole earth, and all things which are in it shall be destroyed.
5. And now teach him how he may escape, and how his seed may remain in all the earth.
6. Again the Lord said to Raphael, Bind Azazyel hand and foot; cast him into darkness; and opening the desert which is in Dudael, cast him in there.
7. Throw upon him hurled and pointed stones, covering him with darkness;
8. There shall he remain for ever; cover his face, that he may not see the light.
9. And in the great day of judgment let him be cast into the fire.
10. Restore the earth, which the angels have corrupted; and announce life to it, that I may revive it.
11. All the sons of men shall not perish in consequence of every secret, by which the Watchers have destroyed, and which they have taught, their offspring.
12. All the earth has been corrupted by the effects of the teaching of Azazyel. To him therefore ascribe the whole crime.

13. To Gabriel also the Lord said, Go to the biters, to the reprobates, to the children of fornication; and destroy the children of fornication, the offspring of the Watchers, from among men; bring them forth, and excite them one against another. Let them perish by mutual slaughter; for length of days shall not be theirs.

Re: The wages of sin is not eternal torment (III)

By: dayan (M) |Time : April 07, 2019, 08:28:46 AM
So, from the Book of Enoch, Jesus parable of the corn and tares comes to the rescue.
Jesus taught in parable about the farmer who planted corn in his farm, and while men slept the enemy went and sowed tares there.
And then the plants sprouted to appear the same, and the workers wanted to go uproot them, but the farmer commanded them not to uproot them so that they do not mistakenly uproot the corns.
The farmer told them to wait until harvest, when every plant would bear its own seed.
Then the corn will be gathered to the barn, while the tares will be gathered and burned.

I believe that the judgement day will be about God finally riding the earth of that pollution.
It will likely be about God gathering the polluted out of this earth, casting them and death into the lake of fire, and Jesus restoring humans to God in their pure (and unadulterated ) form, as they were before the watchers polluted the earth.

Of course this is the simplified version of it.
The bottomline is "Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
" Matthew 7:16

Some human beings on this earth are so evil that the only rational way to explain them is that they are the seed of the fallen angels. They can be found in ANY and ALL parts of the world.
The simplest way to spot them is to note their acts of wickedness and evil.
God still has the final prerogative in this earth.

Another parable that also hints about how God would likely judge human beings on this earth is the parable of the prodigal son.
The prodigal son repented and returned to his father. If he did not return, his father would be sadden, but he would still be lost. I'm talking about ordinary human beings now, not people sired by the fallen angels or those who sold their hearts to the devil. Repentance, which may be as simple as remembering God and his love for you as a human being, to me, is the beginning of wisdom that leads to salvation.
I doubt that God would save those who hate him.

Re: The wages of sin is not eternal torment (III)

By: alagbe003 (M) |Time : April 07, 2019, 08:56:02 AM
These article need thorough reading, but some part of it can be termed as False Teaching, but some of it can strengthen one in the journey towards eternal life. Knowledge is power.

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