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In Marriage, God's language is Agape: The House of Jacob as an Example

By dayan (M)January 06, 2017, 11:27:14 PM
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The purpose of this post is to surmise that it is ungodly to impose a practice that confines God into a human-convenient corner, and then present that as God's preference in the way we humans live.

All of God's laws have to do with loving him and loving other humans (agape love) as ourselves.
Once a law, practice, or convention falls outside of this test, that law is, to the extent of its deviation, ungodly.

Often when people debate marriage systems, they fail to do this test.

The narrative below illustrates very important points.

Jacob wanted to marry Rachel -his cousin, Laban's daughter (Laban is Jacob's uncle). According to the tradition of the time, he had to serve Laban for seven years in lieu of a bride price. After he had completed his seven years service to Laban, on the night that he was to be given Rachel, Laban smuggled Leah, Rachel's senior sister to the wedding and Jacob ended up marrying her against his will. Determined to get his true heart's desire, Jacob served Laban for another seven years, making it a total of fourteen years. Then he married Rachel. But according to the chart above, Leah had a total of six (6) sons and one daughter for a total of seven children, and her maid servant Zipah had two sons. Rachel did not have children, and in fact had to give her own servant Bilhah to Jacob as wife and this servant had two sons, even before Rachel could have her own sons. Rachel ended up having only two sons.

Now, imagine if Jacob was a compulsive monogamist and insisted on marrying only Rachel, some of the greatest tribes of Israel would never have existed. Some may say, “well God could have given Rachel all those children”, but the fact is that he did not. If God was thinking like humans he would have made Leah barren and given all of those children to Rachel, Jacob's chosen heart desire. But God's ways are not human ways! God is Agape.

Leah the undesired wife ended up having two of the most important tribes of Israel -Judah and Levi. Through both tribes, priesthood (for Levi), and kingship (for Judah) stayed in Leah's house for ever.
The only significant achievement from Rachel's house is that Joseph saved the house of Israel during famine in Egypt and God rewarded him with double portion of the promised land through his sons Ephraim and Manasseh.
If Jacob did not marry Leah, or divorced her to stick with only Rachel, even Jesus Christ would not have come because he is from the tribe of Judah.

The moral of this is that “love” as in (amore) cannot or should not be the all in all whenever marriage is  being considered because it can limit the hands of God. Rather Agape (unconditional love) should guide the entire process.
Jacob, though he did not desire Leah, had unconditional love for her by marrying and treating her as wife because she is a human being with feelings, and God rewarded him for it.
Leah had unconditional love for Jacob in that, though she had sons for Jacob, still gave her maid to have more sons for him.
Rachel had unconditional love for Jacob and she gave her own maid to Jacob to have children in her place, and God rewarded her with children of her own. Had these women been like the ones today that only believe in possessive/amore/selfish love (possess a man to self only), Jacob would have married only Rachel, and would have lost out big time because of that. And, it is also possible that if Rachel did not give her maid to Jacob, she herself may never have had sons too -often women get pregnant after adopting babies or after their husbands married a second wife (I've seen many instances of this).

What this means or says, to me, is that God will use any marriage between a man and a woman to bring children into this world, and it would be a mistake to predict how God would bless the products of any marriage.


Re: In Marriage, God's language is Agape: The House of Jacob as an Example

By Adenosine (M)January 07, 2017, 06:02:00 PM
The work of God is a misery and no one can predict it because He do everything in His.... He said my thought are not your thought neither my ways are your ways. That is God.

If we compare what happened in Jacob family to this present day, I would say is not possible for something like that to happen in this world we are again.

Agape is the kind of love God have towards us but we are not practicing it as He has commanded us.

When Jesus came into the world, he reduced ten commandments to two and the two based on love.... Love God with the whole of your heart and the second one is like it, love your neighbors as yourself.

If we can practice this Agape love, I believe everything will come back to normal... All boko haram or no boko haram is because there is no love.


Re: In Marriage, God's language is Agape: The House of Jacob as an Example

By dayan (M)January 07, 2017, 08:29:10 PM
The work of God is a misery and no one can predict it because He do everything in His.... He said my thought are not your thought neither my ways are your ways. That is God.

If we compare what happened in Jacob family to this present day, I would say is not possible for something like that to happen in this world we are again.

Agape is the kind of love God have towards us but we are not practicing it as He has commanded us.

When Jesus came into the world, he reduced ten commandments to two and the two based on love.... Love God with the whole of your heart and the second one is like it, love your neighbors as yourself.

If we can practice this Agape love, I believe everything will come back to normal... All boko haram or no boko haram is because there is no love.

Lets just say that the problem is ironically more in Christian societies than in Muslim ones. Take a look at Nigeria, you would see that there is more selfishness, wickedness, and self-centeredness in the east than in the north. It would be unfair to say that such practice is not possible today. It is possible, and people are in fact living like that in the north, and for that, God blessed them with political leadership and control of Nigeria. The thing about God is that he doesn't ever change. The God of Jacob's days is the same God that is alive today. The fact that European "Christian cultures" tried to skew the facts to suit their own culture during the Holy Roman Empire Christianity, didn't ever change God into what he is not.

In God's idea of love -YOU GIVE. That is why God "so loved the world that HE GAVE his only son...". In the "love" system we have today YOU TAKE and keep asking to be given, instead of thinking of what you can give to the other person.
God's kind of love - YOU GIVE
The world's kind of love -YOU TAKE
Diametrical opposites.


Re: In Marriage, God's language is Agape: The House of Jacob as an Example

By Adenosine (M)January 09, 2017, 08:40:35 PM
I really agreed with you that this is happening most among the Christians. If you can still remembered what one pastor of a church did, wore rag to church because of that nobody approached him talkless of welcoming him to church. That is the kind of christians we have these days, Christian that based on your class and achievement.


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