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Dutch fertility doctor used own sperm to father 49 children

By: dayan (M) |Time : April 17, 2019, 10:37:18 PM
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Some of the children involved in the case have waited years for the confirmation


A Dutch fertility doctor accused of using his own sperm to inseminate patients without their consent has been confirmed as the father of 49 children.

DNA tests revealed that Jan Karbaat, who died two years ago, impregnated their mothers at his clinic in Bijdorp, near Rotterdam.

The results were confirmed on Friday after judges allowed their release.

One of the children, named Joey, said he could "finally close the chapter" now he knew Mr Karbaat was his father.

"After a search of 11 years I can continue my life. I am glad that I finally have clarity," he told Dutch broadcaster NOS.

Tim Bueters, a lawyer who represented the 49 children, said he was pleased about the outcome of the case after years of uncertainty.

"It means that there is finally clarity for the children who are matched," he told NOS.

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Most of the children were born in the eighties


Mr Karbaat was first taken to court in 2017 by a group of donor children and their parents over suspicions they were related.

One of the cases involved a donor child who physically resembled the doctor, the court heard.

Items were seized from his home after his death in April 2017 at the age of 89.
'Serious suspicions'

Judges ruled in 2017 that DNA tests could be carried out but said the results must be sealed pending the outcome of further court cases, Dutch media reported.

In February this year, Rotterdam District Court ruled that the results of the tests could be finally be revealed.

They substantiate "serious suspicions that Mr Karbaat used his own sperm in the clinic", a statement on the website of legal firm Rex Advocate says.

Mr Karbaat called himself "a pioneer in the field of fertilisation".

His clinic was closed in 2009 amid allegations that he had falsified data, analyses and donor descriptions and exceeded the permitted number of six children per donor.


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Re: Dutch fertility doctor used own sperm to father 49 children

By: dayan (M) |Time : April 17, 2019, 10:48:27 PM
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Mr Karbaat called himself "a pioneer in the field of fertilisation".

Well, he has created his own definition of what he did.
Like it or not, he fathered 49 human beings. :w

I can say a lot about this, but let me wait for now...



Re: Dutch fertility doctor used own sperm to father 49 children

By: alagbe003 (M) |Time : April 19, 2019, 09:12:42 AM
What he did is against Medical ethics, but the fact remains he fathered 49 children which is massive (that guy is so fertile).

Re: Dutch fertility doctor used own sperm to father 49 children

By: dayan (M) |Time : April 19, 2019, 09:24:49 PM
What he did is against Medical ethics, but the fact remains he fathered 49 children which is massive (that guy is so fertile).

Well...

Any man who produces sperms at all can pull off the same feat, because his sperm didn't need to do the "heavy lifting" necessary to prove fertility.
The doctor's sperms were simply injected into the eggs that fertilized the ova from these women.
This is one of the reasons I tend to hesitate to support IVF procedures.

To me, the process that brings a human being into this world should not have human hands involved -at all. 
And by "hands" I mean it literally.

Let me digress a little with the hope of sustaining my point.

I once watched a video of sperms ejaculated into a woman's VG, and the journey they make before they get to the ovaries.
Mehn! That journey is a mystical and divine journey fraught with dangers and obstacles!
Few sperms make it the whole way, and only ONE gets to penetrate the egg for fertilization.
I don't even want to mention the amount of energy (both physical and spiritual) released as part of the ejaculation process in natural insemination. 

How then can such an intricate and detailed process be substituted by a single "man in the lab" (a total stranger) using a pipet to suck up a single sperm, and then injecting it (at his sole discretion) into an egg?

Here's what would have satisfied me...

(1) A woman's husband is taught how to do this whole thing
(2) The husband prays and fasts for days asking God to guide his hands as he picks "the sperm" on the elected day
(3) The husband injects the sperm while somehow engaged in a "lovemaking" environment with his wife.

No doctors or other parties in site whatsoever!  :)) :))

THAT would still fall short, but at least we won't have a scenario that leads to a doctor "fathering" 49 innocent kids from unsuspecting women some of whom are people's wives.

I know my views on this may only exist in Lalaland, but I still think that kids coming into this world should be decided by God through the process he laid down from creation.
I would even have accepted "illegal sex" between a man and a woman to produce these babies, at least it would still follow that natural process and it would be based on truth instead of deceit. But I won't go there because that is another deep topic that would need a whole book written on it.

By this doctor fathering these 49 kids, he did more than rape these women and their husbands, some of who were denied the opportunity to reproduce.

Re: Dutch fertility doctor used own sperm to father 49 children

By: alagbe003 (M) |Time : April 20, 2019, 09:43:32 AM
Well...

Any man who produces sperms at all can pull off the same feat, because his sperm didn't need to do the "heavy lifting" necessary to prove fertility.
The doctor's sperms were simply injected into the eggs that fertilized the ova from these women.
This is one of the reasons I tend to hesitate to support IVF procedures.

To me, the process that brings a human being into this world should not have human hands involved -at all. 
And by "hands" I mean it literally.

Let me digress a little with the hope of sustaining my point.

I once watched a video of sperms ejaculated into a woman's VG, and the journey they make before they get to the ovaries.
Mehn! That journey is a mystical and divine journey fraught with dangers and obstacles!
Few sperms make it the whole way, and only ONE gets to penetrate the egg for fertilization.
I don't even want to mention the amount of energy (both physical and spiritual) released as part of the ejaculation process in natural insemination. 

How then can such an intricate and detailed process be substituted by a single "man in the lab" (a total stranger) using a pipet to suck up a single sperm, and then injecting it (at his sole discretion) into an egg?

Here's what would have satisfied me...

(1) A woman's husband is taught how to do this whole thing
(2) The husband prays and fasts for days asking God to guide his hands as he picks "the sperm" on the elected day
(3) The husband injects the sperm while somehow engaged in a "lovemaking" environment with his wife.

No doctors or other parties in site whatsoever!  :)) :))

THAT would still fall short, but at least we won't have a scenario that leads to a doctor "fathering" 49 innocent kids from unsuspecting women some of whom are people's wives.

I know my views on this may only exist in Lalaland, but I still think that kids coming into this world should be decided by God through the process he laid down from creation.
I would even have accepted "illegal sex" between a man and a woman to produce these babies, at least it would still follow that natural process and it would be based on truth instead of deceit. But I won't go there because that is another deep topic that would need a whole book written on it.

By this doctor fathering these 49 kids, he did more than rape these women and their husbands, some of who were denied the opportunity to reproduce.
I have same view too, IVF seems against the nature, if it can be done the way you just analysed it then it is ok.

Re: Dutch fertility doctor used own sperm to father 49 children

By: Ramjoe (M) |Time : April 22, 2019, 02:18:21 PM
49?

49!

49.

If he's from here in this dispensation. He'd be involved in cyber crime or rituals... Big fraud! Dayan described the situation well, he raped the mothers and "the fathers" too...

He's dead. If alive, I would have recommended Guantanamo prison.

49 men and women... Absurd to say the least.

Re: Dutch fertility doctor used own sperm to father 49 children

By: Ramjoe (M) |Time : April 22, 2019, 02:22:56 PM
May be they didn't even count very well.

Herod missed baby Jesus.

Rahl missed baby Richard.

Just may be there are more... Children from these same source...

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