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Ooni reafirms Igbo-Yoruba family ties

By: Ramjoe (M) |Time : April 22, 2019, 03:57:05 PM
By Gbenga Olarinoye Osogbo –

 The Ooni of Ife, Oba Adeyeye Enitan Ogunwusi has reaffirmed his position on the family ties between Yoruba and Igbo nations, saying the two major ethnic groups in nigeria are inseparable members of the same family.

 Ooni Ogunwusi stated this last weekend at his Ile-Oodua palace in Ile-Ife while receiving the Lagos state president of Ohanaeze Ndigbo, Chief Solomon Ogbonna who accompanied the delegation of African Farmers And Cultural Organization on a courtesy visit to the palace.

According to a statement by the Chief Press Secretary, CPS, to Ooni, Moses Olafare, Oba Ogunwusi said: “I am so happy to have the President of Ohanaeze Ndigbo Lagos State President here as part of this empowerment initiative.

“Lagos is part of Yoruba land we are all one we are all the same, the history is there the facts are there, and we should actually put this facts out. Why are we fighting?”

“This is your root. I said it recently, some of our Yoruba kinsmen with ignorance of our history came out with nugatory bereavement of my position on the family ties between Yoruba and Igbo people. We have to say the truth and the truth must set us all free, we are blood brothers. We should be inseparable. Please feel at home in Yorubaland and respect your Yoruba brothers and sisters too”

“We still have House of Igbo right in this palace till date. We call it Ile Igbo up till now. Our ancestors are buried and transfigured there. That is where kolanut was first discovered and nurtured.

The Igbos are still the biggest consumers and users of Kolanut which is only planted in Yorubaland till date. Can the Igbos do without kolanut? ”

“The ancient Igbo house is one of the most sacred places in thia palace till date. One of my brother kings – Aka Arogundabi from Iremo quarters saw the mysteries of house of Igbo(Aka-ri-Igbo). Till date, Akarigbo of Remoland still sees house of Igbo as a common heritage of his forebears. Ooni explained.

The African foremost monarch maintained that he is a reincarnated spirit of his ancestors, asking Olugbo of Ugbo in Ondo state, Oba Fredrick Akinrutan Obateru to visit the Ile Oodua in Ile-Ife for proofs and evidences on the Igbo/Yoruba ties and also various tribes of Igbo ancestory in Ife.

 “We have a lot of discoveries that the Igbo and Yoruba people once lived together as one family and this will be revealed to the public. We should look at things that connect us together not those that separate us”

 “I am a reincarnated spirit of our ancestors, my name is Enitan which means a child of stories and mysteries. I had come to this world before thats why I am Babatunde also and I am back again to establish the truth and nothing but the truth and the truth will set us all free.”

“We are all the same. We have about 4 set of sub ethnic Igbos in Yoruba land when we were all together like we have sub ethnic clan in Yoruba race. We have the Egbas, Ijebus, Ekiti, Oyo, Ondo, Itshekiris they are all Yorubas but at the end of the day they belong to the Aku Aaro Oojiire(Omoluwabi ethnic clan).

“The Ifa corpus that brought our ancestors from Heaven were and still are Ogbe Meji, Ogbe Ofun and Ofun Meji. While Oduduwa clan had Ogbe meji, the Oranfe(Sango) and Obatala clans had Ogbe Ofun and Ofun Meji respectively. Our generations thereafter became intertwined with different roles and responsibilites directly from the Almighty God who sent all of the brothers to the world. The facts are there, so it will take the deep efforts to fact find all these facts and connect all the dots together”.

“So, people that don’t know the story, I’m not trying to cast blame on anybody but if they don’t know they should ask. They say one Igbo is different from the other, it is true we have about 4 categories of Igbos we have Igbo Ile, Igbo Oko the Iwinrin sub ethnic clan and Ado na Udu. All make up to the unified Igbo clan”.

“There were different clans of Igbos that left from Ife to establish their kingdoms. One of them rebelled back and started coming to cause mayhem in Ife(where they originally came from) and that is the Olugbo kingdom. We should all come together and forget what happened in the past”.

 “I mentioned that the Igbos started the spirit of profitability, “Aje” in Ife at Igbomekun market(known as Oja Ife too). I implore you to tell the entire Ndigbo that You did not come from Jew, the Jews came from you and that is the truth.

“Let us all reconcile differences and look at things that connect us rather than things that divide us”, Ooni added.

On his part, the President of Ohaeneze in Lagos state assured Ooni Ogunwusi that the Igbo people hold him in high esteem and will always appreciate his efforts in unifying all the races in Nigeria to peacefully coexist as one inseparable family, calling him an uncommon bridge builder who is well loved and respected across Africa.

Chairman of Ogun Osun River Basin Authority and a member of the African Farmers And Cultural Organization(AFCO), Hon Sola Lawal had earlier introduced the delegation which included its president, Prince Chukwunwike Esiole and Chief(Mrs).Yetunde Babajide as its South-West Officiating Ambassador . Hon. Lawal said they were visiting the Ooni in appreciating his agricultural empowerment for the youths and his efforts promoting made-in- Nigeria products which is in tandem with what AFCO stands for with its theme “Nigeria eat what we produce! Produce what we eat”.

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Re: Ooni reafirms Igbo-Yoruba family ties

By: Ramjoe (M) |Time : April 22, 2019, 04:04:58 PM
I don't think this will win Ooni of Ife many fans among the Igbos.

Re: Ooni reafirms Igbo-Yoruba family ties

By: Ramjoe (M) |Time : April 22, 2019, 04:06:42 PM
Dayan!

Can take us down the memory lane?

Bikonu, I'm curious.

Re: Ooni reafirms Igbo-Yoruba family ties

By: dayan (M) |Time : April 22, 2019, 06:16:34 PM
Dayan!

Can take us down the memory lane?

Bikonu, I'm curious.


Ogbeni calm down make I read am first.  :))

Re: Ooni reafirms Igbo-Yoruba family ties

By: dayan (M) |Time : April 22, 2019, 06:24:48 PM
Okay let me begin with what I believe in -something that makes scientific sense because every scientist of anthropology has agreed that migration was from Africa outwards and not inwards.
So, I agree with this statement below:

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I implore you to tell the entire Ndigbo that You did not come from Jew, the Jews came from you and that is the truth.

 8)

Re: Ooni reafirms Igbo-Yoruba family ties

By: dayan (M) |Time : April 22, 2019, 06:37:25 PM
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“We are all the same. We have about 4 set of sub ethnic Igbos in Yoruba land when we were all together like we have sub ethnic clan in Yoruba race. We have the Egbas, Ijebus, Ekiti, Oyo, Ondo, Itshekiris they are all Yorubas but at the end of the day they belong to the Aku Aaro Oojiire(Omoluwabi ethnic clan).

“The Ifa corpus that brought our ancestors from Heaven were and still are Ogbe Meji, Ogbe Ofun and Ofun Meji.

Okay, as for this statement, I would say that it is a neither here nor there kind of information.
For starters, if you want to trace back the history and common origins of different ethnic groups, religious practices lend a helping hand.
In that line of thought, the Yoruba and the Igbo share almost the same name for "divination".
In Igbo it is "Afa". In Yoruba it is "Ifa".

I guess that without a detailed genetic anthropological research, we may never know which group predated the other.
There is a cave in Uturu in Abia state that shows that Igbo had been there for at least 10,000 years.
The Igbo are a verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry OLD African people.

Re: Ooni reafirms Igbo-Yoruba family ties

By: dayan (M) |Time : April 22, 2019, 06:45:21 PM
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“Let us all reconcile differences and look at things that connect us rather than things that divide us”, Ooni added.

I have always loved this young Oba right from the day he was crowned.
Something tells me that (in Shaka Zulu's thinking and voice) "he was sent by the spirits of our ancestors to bring peace".  :))

But for the Oba to succeed in his divine mission, he needs to look closely at his immediate brothers (the Yoruba) who do what I call "the wrong type of politics".

The good news is that the rank of Yorubas who want to see Igbo as brothers is increasing by the day.
Maybe this young Oba's efforts will provide the tipping point needed to form true unity between both ethnic groups.

Re: Ooni reafirms Igbo-Yoruba family ties

By: alagbe003 (M) |Time : April 23, 2019, 07:20:22 AM
I have always said it that Yoruba's are peace loving, I have heard some people from other tribe saying "una too dey fear, u no get liver" but I disagree Yoruba's are not fearful but peace loving. Igbo's are also guilty when it comes to the issue of Lagos, Lagos is a Yoruba land and not a no-mans land. Although this recent conflict was caused by some people who have hidden agenda(I mean some selfish politicians), so it is wrong to generalize that one tribe is bad, only a small fraction of Yoruba's in Lagos are involved in this fracas. And for emphasis "it didn't lead to loss of life and properties which if such happens in any other part of Nigeria expecially North would have led to loss of life and properties".

Re: Ooni reafirms Igbo-Yoruba family ties

By: dayan (M) |Time : April 23, 2019, 07:53:51 AM
I have always said it that Yoruba's are peace loving, I have heard some people from other tribe saying "una too dey fear, u no get liver" but I disagree Yoruba's are not fearful but peace loving. Igbo's are also guilty when it comes to the issue of Lagos, Lagos is a Yoruba land and not a no-mans land. Although this recent conflict was caused by some people who have hidden agenda(I mean some selfish politicians), so it is wrong to generalize that one tribe is bad, only a small fraction of Yoruba's in Lagos are involved in this fracas. And for emphasis "it didn't lead to loss of life and properties which if such happens in any other part of Nigeria expecially North would have led to loss of life and properties".

Okay, let me say this...
The Igbo has a proverb which says "when preparing an eye medicine, make sure not to add pepper to the ingredients".
I love the honesty of this statement because without honesty, there can never be genuine understanding between the two groups.
This your statement represents the popular Yoruba view and approach to the talk of "unity with Igbo".
But the problem is that it conflicts with the spirit of the Oba's statement below:

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“Lagos is part of Yoruba land we are all one we are all the same, the history is there the facts are there, and we should actually put this facts out. Why are we fighting?”

“This is your root. I said it recently, some of our Yoruba kinsmen with ignorance of our history came out with nugatory bereavement of my position on the family ties between Yoruba and Igbo people. We have to say the truth and the truth must set us all free, we are blood brothers. We should be inseparable. Please feel at home in Yorubaland and respect your Yoruba brothers and sisters too”

If Igbo originated from Yorubaland, and as the Oba alludes to we are blood brothers and inseparable,
why is the issue of Lagos ownership mentioned at all?
How can the Igbo "feel at home in Yorubaland" when someone is constantly reminding them that they are NOT the owners of Lagos.
Logic says that If A is the same as B, it then follows that A's property is also B's property.
If not, then someone is not being fully honest. 

Having said that,  I believe that majority of Igbo believe that Lagos is Yorubaland.
The Igbo that debate it are what we call "efulefu" in Igboland; i.e people who would rather develop ANYWHERE but their own ancestral land.

I believe that there should be unity between Igbo and Yoruba for their mutual survival in the Nigerian Hobbesian jungle where life is brutish and short. But a wise Igbo should still stay in Igboland, or at least not invest outside Igboland more than Igboland so that he or she is not misunderstood or carried away.

A day may yet come when the ownership of Lagos is not an issue anymore that it causes heartburn.
We are not there yet.

Re: Ooni reafirms Igbo-Yoruba family ties

By: Ramjoe (M) |Time : April 23, 2019, 10:19:48 AM
Okay, as for this statement, I would say that it is a neither here nor there kind of information.
For starters, if you want to trace back the history and common origins of different ethnic groups, religious practices lend a helping hand.
In that line of thought, the Yoruba and the Igbo share almost the same name for "divination".
In Igbo it is "Afa". In Yoruba it is "Ifa".
I guess that without a detailed genetic anthropological research, we may never know which group predated the other.
There is a cave in Uturu in Abia state that shows that Igbo had been there for at least 10,000 years.
The Igbo are a verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry OLD African people.

This is where you nailed it, man...

You flee unfounded arguments... You speak facts...

You're one of us!  :))

Re: Ooni reafirms Igbo-Yoruba family ties

By: Ramjoe (M) |Time : April 23, 2019, 10:39:34 AM
In this world, where someone can be English by birth, Scottish through his papa, Irish through his mama then probably entitled to some other citizenship through his grandparents...

Some are fighting over Lagos... Our Lagos, a capital of the Federation at one time... If we really want to try, like really try our best to stay one - we have to work more on our strengths, our similarities - not exaggerating our differences or dwelling on petty issues such as "ownership" of Lagos... This is Nigeria, if you have the money I believe you can settle down in any part - raise a family, buy land, build house - be it "your tribes" land or another; it is Nigeria - our land. Why is that hard to comprehend for people?

The way we live (and carry things for head) in Nigeria, it enslaves us. Most hearts are divided against themselves, most houses are divided against themselves - many people seek differences in everything. All vanity, if you ask me.

We are divided along ethnic lines, religious beliefs, politics etc - many Nigerians have forgotten what we were before we became any of these aforementioned "divisions" - we're humans first...

Re: Ooni reafirms Igbo-Yoruba family ties

By: alagbe003 (M) |Time : April 24, 2019, 10:15:10 PM
Okay, let me say this...
The Igbo has a proverb which says "when preparing an eye medicine, make sure not to add pepper to the ingredients".
I love the honesty of this statement because without honesty, there can never be genuine understanding between the two groups.
This your statement represents the popular Yoruba view and approach to the talk of "unity with Igbo".
But the problem is that it conflicts with the spirit of the Oba's statement below:

If Igbo originated from Yorubaland, and as the Oba alludes to we are blood brothers and inseparable,
why is the issue of Lagos ownership mentioned at all?
How can the Igbo "feel at home in Yorubaland" when someone is constantly reminding them that they are NOT the owners of Lagos.
Logic says that If A is the same as B, it then follows that A's property is also B's property.
If not, then someone is not being fully honest. 

Having said that,  I believe that majority of Igbo believe that Lagos is Yorubaland.
The Igbo that debate it are what we call "efulefu" in Igboland; i.e people who would rather develop ANYWHERE but their own ancestral land.

I believe that there should be unity between Igbo and Yoruba for their mutual survival in the Nigerian Hobbesian jungle where life is brutish and short. But a wise Igbo should still stay in Igboland, or at least not invest outside Igboland more than Igboland so that he or she is not misunderstood or carried away.

A day may yet come when the ownership of Lagos is not an issue anymore that it causes heartburn.
We are not there yet.
You have spoken well, but I do believe Igbo's should start developing there areas as well, if they win Biafra country they might suffer from lack of development of the SouthEast. Historically Lagos is a Yoruba land, British colonial master caused this issue, during the early 1960's, Lagos was a colony but was largely the Island(VI, Lekki, Ajah, Bannana Island, Ikoyi etc). Ikeja, Epe, Badagry, Ikorodu were with the old Westhern Region. Akintola was the premier and Oba Akran of Badagry was one of the serving ministers.
Igbo's never came from Yoruba's nor Yoruba's from Igbo(history have it that Oduduwa(progenitor of Yoruba race) migrated from Mecca, when he got to Ile-ife he met some people notably Obatala, Orunmila etc. I think Ooni is just looking for allies with the Igbo's which is typical of Yoruba's, Egun people came from Benin Republic and are accepted as part of Yoruba people, Tapa people have allies with Nupe people in Niger State but are still Yoruba's, Benin people of Edo are arguably Yoruba's, same with Okun people in Kaaba Kogi state, once you can speak Yoruba you are seen as part of Yoruba's race... The reason Igbo's see Yoruba's as traitor was the coup and assassination of Major General Aguiyi Ironsi when he visited Lieutenant Colonel Adekunle Fajuyi in Ibadan, both men died that day, few years later civil war erupted. We still felt the effect of civil war till today. There is a bit of history that was twisted, it was Yoruba people that planned to leave Nigeria, but Igbo's hijacked the plan and created Biafra project. Yoruba's felt bad, but Igbo's blew there chances by planning to come to over throw Lagos that was why Obafemi Awolowo gave FG the trick to capture Biafra soldier because he didn't want Igbo's to destroy Lagos. For Nigeria to move forward Igbo's have to forgive and forget the past, we black Africans actually forgave the Americans who specialized in slave trade. Am an advocate of regional government, each region coordinating it's own resources but remitting a certain percentage to the FG.

Re: Ooni reafirms Igbo-Yoruba family ties

By: Ramjoe (M) |Time : April 25, 2019, 06:07:46 AM
You have spoken well, but I do believe Igbo's should start developing there areas as well, if they win Biafra country they might suffer from lack of development of the SouthEast. Historically Lagos is a Yoruba land, British colonial master caused this issue, during the early 1960's, Lagos was a colony but was largely the Island(VI, Lekki, Ajah, Bannana Island, Ikoyi etc). Ikeja, Epe, Badagry, Ikorodu were with the old Westhern Region. Akintola was the premier and Oba Akran of Badagry was one of the serving ministers.
Igbo's never came from Yoruba's nor Yoruba's from Igbo(history have it that Oduduwa(progenitor of Yoruba race) migrated from Mecca, when he got to Ile-ife he met some people notably Obatala, Orunmila etc. I think Ooni is just looking for allies with the Igbo's which is typical of Yoruba's, Egun people came from Benin Republic and are accepted as part of Yoruba people, Tapa people have allies with Nupe people in Niger State but are still Yoruba's, Benin people of Edo are arguably Yoruba's, same with Okun people in Kaaba Kogi state, once you can speak Yoruba you are seen as part of Yoruba's race... The reason Igbo's see Yoruba's as traitor was the coup and assassination of Major General Aguiyi Ironsi when he visited Lieutenant Colonel Adekunle Fajuyi in Ibadan, both men died that day, few years later civil war erupted. We still felt the effect of civil war till today. There is a bit of history that was twisted,it was Yoruba people that planned to leave Nigeria, but Igbo's hijacked the plan and created Biafra project. Yoruba's felt bad, but Igbo's blew there chances by planning to come to over throw Lagos that was why Obafemi Awolowo gave FG the trick to capture Biafra soldier because he didn't want Igbo's to destroy Lagos. For Nigeria to move forward Igbo's have to forgive and forget the past, we black Africans actually forgave the Americans who specialized in slave trade. Am an advocate of regional government, each region coordinating it's own resources but remitting a certain percentage to the FG.

Many points here I have heard of or read before... But that my highlight up there? Never!

I'm curious...

Re: Ooni reafirms Igbo-Yoruba family ties

By: alagbe003 (M) |Time : April 26, 2019, 02:12:07 PM
Many points here I have heard of or read before... But that my highlight up there? Never!

I'm curious...
Not a reply to your highlight, but only buttressing where the problem started from, a bit of history.

Re: Ooni reafirms Igbo-Yoruba family ties

By: dayan (M) |Time : April 26, 2019, 05:55:04 PM
Many points here I have heard of or read before... But that my highlight up there? Never!

I'm curious...

You have not heard about it before because it is NOT true.  :))

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